There’s Hillary canoeing with a reformed white supremacist, Chelsea trying (in vain) to learn to surf, and the two of them putting paint brush to canvas withMegan Thee Stallionbeside her backyard pool.
But, for the series' hosts andexecutive producerspersonally, perhaps the most gutsy was the former secretary of state — a practicing lawyer and law firm partner before she was first lady — going head to head withlaw studentKim Kardashianin a contest of legal knowledge.
“I think Kim has an unfair advantage,” Hillary hedges in the episode previewed exclusively here and in the new issue of PEOPLE.
Chelsea, acting as quizmaster, allows: “Kim hasstudied more recentlythan you.”
After a round of questions on the use of deadly force, the difference between extortion and robbery, and when a claim of self-defense is permissible, Kim soundly beat Hillary, 11-4.
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Was the loss humbling?
“Oh, it was heartbreaking!” Hillary tells PEOPLE in a recent interview previewingGutsy, from theHiddenLight Productionsstudio she founded with Chelsea in 2020. The series is based on the mother-daughter team’s bestselling 2019The Book of Gutsy Women.
“My kids were there every time I opened my results, and so they’d see me cry. And the last time, they saw me cry the best tears of happiness thatI did it.”
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Both Clintons tell PEOPLE they came away from their day of filming with the star feeling impressed. “She worked so hard (on the bar) and persevered,” says Hillary.
“We didn’t interview her about fashion … her many lines of commerce … her personal life. We interviewed about whatshe was doing to help get people who were unjustly or unfairly incarceratedhave a second chance.”
And Chelsea’s ready to join Kardashian’s cause.
“She’s very self-aware that her celebrity can make a difference positively, and where it may make a negative difference. She never wants to make a negative difference, so being judicious and thoughtful about when and where and how she engages was really impressive to us. I want, even beyond this series, to do whatever I can to help herin that work.”
As for how Hillary, whoearned her law degree from Yale, fared head-to-head with the legal novice, Chelsea offered her mom a face-saving out.
“I think she just needs to work on her reaction time,” says Chelsea. “Sometimes, I could see my mom knew what the answer was, but she wouldn’t hit the buzzer in time.”
You’re not saying youlether win, are you?
“No! I’m not saying that,” Hillary hastens to reply. “It’s more the reaction time.”
For more of PEOPLE’s interview with the Clintons, pick up the new issue on newsstands Friday.
source: people.com